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CarterQ
09-12-2011, 09:27 PM
Bob sent me this prototype unit a few weeks ago and I have been putting it through its paces, some of you have noticed it and asked questions and a few others around here have them as well. Thought I would share a little about how it works and what it looks like. Keep in mind this is still a prototype.

First it uses a common vented holder for the flame zone and the blank drip pan

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/18fb6e73.jpg

New flame diffuser which distributes the flame across the flame zone more evenly

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/84498d6e.jpg

The holder and diffuser in the grill

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/28b4e6b7.jpg

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/6cbbf222.jpg

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/1f0588b3.jpg

The quick change drip pan and full size flame zone inserts

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/c7116b30.jpg

Drip pan in the grill

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/d6ad5c79.jpg

Flame zone in

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/c01314ba.jpg

Existing grates and or sear grate fit right over the top of the drip pan frame

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Quick%20Change%20Pan/43657fe9.jpg

AS you can tell, even though it is a prototype it is well designed and well built just like everything else from MAK.

So far performance has been great, the full size flame zone is awesome and has even heat across most of the grill surface, really opens up some new possibilities with the 2 star as a wood fired grill.

Using the drip pan I have seen very little difference in performance and one of the great things with the design is that it is almost impossible to get grease down below into the bottom of the grill.

Sor far so good, and I love that the cool new toys still work with the "old timer" grills.

squirtthecat
09-13-2011, 05:02 AM
Very cool.. That diffuser looks wicked!

Rip
09-13-2011, 05:54 AM
Great report Carter!

jimsbarbecue
09-13-2011, 07:00 AM
The one I used doesn't look like that. It is closer to black and has all sorts of burned stuff all over it. In fact that looks like you may have scooter's pan! It is a nice feature that new stuff still fit the orginal MAK's

SmokinMAK
09-13-2011, 10:29 AM
I'm with Jim. Mine looks a lot different too. ;-)


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CarterQ
09-13-2011, 10:35 AM
Don't worry mine doesn't even resemble the one in the pictures anymore!

CarterQ
09-13-2011, 10:57 AM
Just a few things I have done on the full size flame zone so far-

Chicken Tostadas

Marinated some chicken thighs and on the flame zone

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/1734e26f.jpg

Get great vaporization of juices coming off the meat

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/fcd3c989.jpg

Nice even grilling across the whole thing

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/63a6e734.jpg

Ready to go

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/2f36dd60.jpg

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/15634d0d.jpg

Little porkchops

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/b5f061fd.jpg

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/191b6621.jpg

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/376354bd.jpg

As Jim pointed out in another thread, burgers are great on the flame zone

Frozen patties on

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/33991b11.jpg

Again there is great vaporization of fats on this thing so it gives a nice flavor to the meat

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/carter93230/MAK%20Super%20Sear%20Zone%20Shots/fc36d986.jpg

MAK DADDY
09-13-2011, 10:58 AM
Even the pit looks pretty dang clean for an "old timer", I guess I'm just scooters worst nightmare :)
I love your stylin with the beverage holders signature!
Thanks to all the testers for such good feedback, we will be tweaking a few things and getting ready for production so others can enjoy.

sparky
09-13-2011, 03:27 PM
will the flame zone cover come w/ 1/2 zone pans? if you only want to flame over 1/2 the grill.

bbqslayer
09-13-2011, 03:53 PM
Carter were you cooking at a certain set temp or was this set on high?

CarterQ
09-13-2011, 06:01 PM
Sometimes I'll go on high but mainly I'll run at 425 when grilling.

jimsbarbecue
09-13-2011, 09:58 PM
will the flame zone cover come w/ 1/2 zone pans? if you only want to flame over 1/2 the grill.

I used the orginal flame zone cover to use 2/3.

sparky
09-14-2011, 02:38 AM
Thank you.

nolesfan954
09-14-2011, 06:31 AM
Sign me up...I gotta have one of those!

MAK DADDY
09-14-2011, 08:54 AM
will the flame zone cover come w/ 1/2 zone pans? if you only want to flame over 1/2 the grill.

Good question! Like Jim said the 2 Star owners can use their original flame zone cover. I will have to figure something out for the 1 Star owners.

sparky
09-14-2011, 09:26 AM
Good question! Like Jim said the 2 Star owners can use their original flame zone cover. I will have to figure something out for the 1 Star owners.

thank you again MD. some of us own both. :)

Jacque
09-14-2011, 09:55 PM
This looks really interesting. I would like to get one when it is available.

One question? Have you considered recycling for the original stainless steel that these new parts will replace? It seem like a waste to just set them to the side and not use them again!

jimsbarbecue
09-15-2011, 07:13 AM
Actually I have used most of the drip pans that MD has sold or beta tested. they all have a place. The orginal blank style I like better when baking on the MAK for a example.

MAK DADDY
09-15-2011, 09:42 AM
This looks really interesting. I would like to get one when it is available.

One question? Have you considered recycling for the original stainless steel that these new parts will replace? It seem like a waste to just set them to the side and not use them again!

That is a good idea! It will cost more to ship than it will gain in recycle but I would hate to see any in a landfill!
We will work on something to try to keep customers from tossing them.

TTNuge
09-15-2011, 10:30 AM
OK, that is fricking HOT and I want one!!

bub
09-17-2011, 02:30 PM
Thanks to all the testers for such good feedback, we will be tweaking a few things and getting ready for production so others can enjoy.

Greetings all - this is my first post (just been reading for a month or so) ...I have a question for MD. I'm considering ordering a Mak 2star but am wondering if this new feature of the full flame zone/drip pan will be stock on 2 stars in the future? Or will this be an additional option only?

Thanks so much and by the way, I've been smoking for years (sticks) and after a bunch of research on pellet smokers, the Mak seems to take the cake. Well done.

MAK DADDY
09-19-2011, 12:09 PM
At this point they will only be an optional accessory, if they are well liked and perform better than the standard design we will probably incorporate them into the production models in the future. I can't really say when, we are still working on getting these up to our standards :) Like all the MAK accessories we will strive to make them fit any of the older grill models..

BBQ Joe
09-19-2011, 01:16 PM
BP, put me on the list when they are ready!

Deimatt
10-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Any new news on this? Can't wait!!!!

Big Poppa
10-23-2011, 04:46 AM
Its really good! Im waiting for my other one star!

MAK DADDY
10-24-2011, 09:38 AM
We have taken the suggestions from the testers and are working on the changes.
Soon :)

Grumpy
11-04-2011, 12:26 AM
Ok... another question...

I will use my MAK mostly for smoking. What is the advantage of having this potential upgrade as opposed to the full smokeing grate that is already available?

I can see the advantage if you're going to do a lot of grilling, but if you're going to do smoking mostly is there an advantage?

RickB
11-04-2011, 04:14 AM
Ok... another question...

I will use my MAK mostly for smoking. What is the advantage of having this potential upgrade as opposed to the full smokeing grate that is already available?

I can see the advantage if you're going to do a lot of grilling, but if you're going to do smoking mostly is there an advantage?


None at all...Just a good option to have if you need it for a large grill cook.

CarterQ
11-04-2011, 06:17 AM
For just smoking the blank pan that comes with it is much easier to pull out and clean, it is also a little easier to access the fire pot for cleaning. You just remove the plate (flame zone or blank) slide the diffuser out if the way and pop the fire pot out.

In playing with the flame zone plate on lower temps I have found you can almost get a direct heat effect and good smoke flavor on whatever you are cooking as well. Still need to monkey with it more but it does make your MAK a more versatile unit.

squirtthecat
11-04-2011, 06:20 AM
For just smoking the blank pan that comes with it is much easier to pull out and clean, it is also a little easier to access the fire pot for cleaning. You just remove the plate (flame zone or blank) slide the diffuser out if the way and pop the fire pot out.

In playing with the flame zone plate on lower temps I have found you can almost get a direct heat effect and good smoke flavor on whatever you are cooking as well. Still need to monkey with it more but it does make your MAK a more versatile unit.

Ditto! That's what I was doing a couple days ago... Direct/indirect heat and far more smoke. Just need to monitor the temps where the meat is sitting.

MAK DADDY
11-04-2011, 10:17 AM
Ok... another question...

I will use my MAK mostly for smoking. What is the advantage of having this potential upgrade as opposed to the full smoking grate that is already available?

I can see the advantage if you're going to do a lot of grilling, but if you're going to do smoking mostly is there an advantage?

The main advantage I can see with the new pan style for smoking is that it captures all the grease from the grate surface. You still get heat around the edges but you don't have to worry as much about keeping the food from hanging over the opening and dripping into the pit below.

CarterQ
11-04-2011, 12:44 PM
MAK daddy makes an excellent point, it does a great job of keeping wayward grease out of the bottom of the grill.

Carter13
12-02-2011, 10:00 AM
At this point they will only be an optional accessory, if they are well liked and perform better than the standard design we will probably incorporate them into the production models in the future. I can't really say when, we are still working on getting these up to our standards :) Like all the MAK accessories we will strive to make them fit any of the older grill models..

I have a few questions for you MAK DADDY.
After 2 1/2 months of extra testing are you going to incorporate them into the 2 Star production models and if so when?
Also when are you going to start selling the 2 Stars with the NEW SILVER powder coating?
Are the 1 Stars going to have this also and when? I noticed that the 2 Star comes standard with the main split grate while the 1 Star doesn't. Are you planning to have the 1 Star come standard with the split grate and if so when?

MAK DADDY
12-02-2011, 10:57 AM
I can't answer the first question just yet as we still do not have a design that works to our standards but we are close.
The 1 Stars will remain Black for now, the split grate is an option only for the 1 star.
Thanks,
Bob

Carter13
12-02-2011, 11:34 AM
Thanks for the fast answer Bob. I am in a holding pattern until you come out with your new 2 Star in 2012. :)