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    Here I am again mak will not reach temp

    1 hour 20 min in now
    Fresh pellets
    First 30 minutes wouldn't go above 150 I turned it off and took everything out and scraped and vaccummed

    For 50 minutes been sitting here with it set on grill
    Highest temp is 190 hovering around 150 160 now

    Set temp at smoke grill set me message it was at temp

    Put temp at 350 not at grill nothing

    The surgery is running like it's smoke and not grill

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    Do you have web Cntl (wifi) still ON in the pellet boss?
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    I do yes.

    I found in the manual to put in manual mode and after it started throwing a fire alarm (at 350 ish) I put it back in auto and then it heated up, to 350/400 it didn't hit 450 until after i was dont eating dinner, I let stay there until it burnt all the fuel (it needed a good long hot cook to "self clean" anyway

    i haven't tried to heat it back up again yet, ill have to vaccum it out again first

    im using perfect mix brand of pellets i store them in charcoal storage bins'

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    i tried to use my mosture metter for wood but i dont think it is made to work on pellets like this lol

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    I know a lot of people seem to like the perfect mix, but I didn't care for it on its own. It's very ashy, and does not seem to be a good mix for high heat. And that was in two different pellet grills, and different batches of pellets. The "no oak" advertisement on them isn't a selling point for me. Try mixing it 50/50 with some oak and see if they don't perform better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbov6camaro View Post
    I do yes.

    I found in the manual to put in manual mode and after it started throwing a fire alarm (at 350 ish) I put it back in auto and then it heated up, to 350/400 it didn't hit 450 until after i was dont eating dinner, I let stay there until it burnt all the fuel (it needed a good long hot cook to "self clean" anyway

    i haven't tried to heat it back up again yet, ill have to vaccum it out again first

    im using perfect mix brand of pellets i store them in charcoal storage bins'
    When turned on, the MAK defaults to web/wifi control being ON. When not planning to control via the makgrillsmobile app the first thing I always do is turn that off and manually set the Pellet Boss to my desired temp.

    Regarding the perfect mix pellets, I'm of the same opinion as Cliff. The perfect mix isn't my first choice (or second). There are other (better) pellet options IMHO. I've tried a few of them and finally settled on BBQr's Delight which I've been using exclusively now for the last 4 years. YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by TentHunter View Post
    I know a lot of people seem to like the perfect mix, but I didn't care for it on its own. It's very ashy, and does not seem to be a good mix for high heat. And that was in two different pellet grills, and different batches of pellets. The "no oak" advertisement on them isn't a selling point for me. Try mixing it 50/50 with some oak and see if they don't perform better.
    BTU ratings for the wood types involved are: Hickory 4327, Oak(white or red) 3757, Maple 3757, Apple 3712, Black Cherry 2880. If the four wood groups in Perfect Mix (Hickory, Maple, Apple, Black Cherry) are in equal proportions the combined BTU is 3769, which is a little higher than Oak at 3757 BTU. The Perfect Mix may produce more ash, but the heat issue doesn't hold water. My $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmonsmoker View Post
    BTU ratings for the wood types involved are: Hickory 4327, Oak(white or red) 3757, Maple 3757, Apple 3712, Black Cherry 2880. If the four wood groups in Perfect Mix (Hickory, Maple, Apple, Black Cherry) are in equal proportions the combined BTU is 3769, which is a little higher than Oak at 3757 BTU. The Perfect Mix may produce more ash, but the heat issue doesn't hold water. My $.02
    If the MAK cannot exceed 200 degrees... then unless the pellets are wet, I seriously doubt that PM pellets are the culprit... I just find that extremely hard to believe. I have burned hundreds and hundreds of pounds of Perfect Mix and have never had an issue hitting 450 which is the hottest I ever cook on my MAK. There has to be something else going on at the controller level or perhaps a mechanical issue. I have no doubts MAK will figure it out
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    BTU ratings was a major discussion years ago on this forum (but that section has since been removed).

    Quote Originally Posted by Salmonsmoker View Post
    BTU ratings for the wood types involved are: Hickory 4327, Oak(white or red) 3757, Maple 3757, Apple 3712, Black Cherry 2880. If the four wood groups in Perfect Mix (Hickory, Maple, Apple, Black Cherry) are in equal proportions the combined BTU is 3769, which is a little higher than Oak at 3757 BTU. The Perfect Mix may produce more ash, but the heat issue doesn't hold water. My $.02



    Boy, I sure hate to point this out, but look at the BTU chart again and you'll see that what you added was the weight of wood per cord.

    Based on that chart, the BTU Ratings FOR FIREWOOD (not pellets) are as follows - expressed in million BTUs per cord:

    Oak: 24 - 36.6 (depending on species, and you don't know - red/white = 24)

    Shagbark Hickory: 27.7
    Black Cherry: 19.5
    Sugar maple: 24
    Apple: 25.8

    The average BTU for the PM (assuming they are in equal proportion) would be 24.25

    Now, here's the issue with that chart:

    First, it's rated on how many BTU's are in a cord of wood (which is how people but firewood), not BTU's per pound (which is how we buy pellets). The only way to get a true comparison would be to compare equal amounts of weight.


    Second, those BTU ratings are for split firewood, NOT pellets, which changes things a bit. The density of the wood plays a role in how tightly they compress into pellets.

    Pine heating pellets, for example, are known to have a HIGHER BTU rating than hardwood heating pellets. Go figure!


    I have yet to see a BTU chart of cooking pellets, rated pound for pound, by species of wood. Until then we only rely on shared experiences.

    Now... Having said all that, I remember years ago, Candy Sue (the owner of BBQer's Delight) talked about this. She said that BBQer's Delight was oak blended, because their research showed oak was what burned consistently the hottest and cleanest.

    The first time I ever burned 100% hickory, I could not believe how much more ash it produced.


    Either way, I do not believe the pellets were his issue. Just my 2 about my experience with those pellets.

    Add that to your 2 and we now have 4!
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    You're right Cliff, BTU's by volume, and by weight don't do a lateral comparison. All the species in the BTU chart are measured by the same method(volume), but doesn't include the weight, which is measured in lbs/1000BF. That's easily found, but as you stated, it doesn't account for density when being pelletized.

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