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    Quote Originally Posted by MAK DADDY View Post
    If your grill was set to 350 degrees for an hour then was going to switch to 250 and you lost connection you wouldn't want it continuing on at 350 degrees...

    Smoke mode is not unsafe for cooking any foods cured or uncured it is an average of 170 degrees well above the 145 unsafe temperature for storing meat.
    Hi Cousin Bob!

    Ok, you're right on the safety of smoke mode ;-) but I still think mcshlotz has a valid point. Anytime the machine is left unattended or un-monitored, the user should be able to count on it staying constant in the event of a network issue. We should be able to make our own mistakes on the temp settings, and a failed programming change due to disconnection at night should be on us and not on MAK. I, for one, would not plug in a 350-to-250 temp change in the middle of the night knowing that there could be a disconnect.

    Maybe a good compromise would be an override of the smoke-mode-on-lost-connection behavior. With a dialogue box that says "Are you sure you want to do this?" or somesuch...
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    Makintosh, I think the only question that hasn't been answered is if the older style half upper rack (With legs) will fit into the newer slide in upper rack models and the answer is no. The upper rack rail is in the way. Personally I'd get the full upper rack because that fits my style of cooking more. I cook everything on the upper rack for two reasons, 1) I want to get the meat as far from the heat source as possible. 2) The smoke seems to linger in the upper cooking chamber resulting in better smoke infusion and if there's one thing synonymous with a MAK it's smoke production. Past that I agree with Tent that the 3/4 upper rack would be a good fit for you if you plan to cook on the bottom rack.
    Something else you didn't mention is the MAK FlashFire ignition system which is awesome! From cold pot to flaming pot in under 3 minutes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sptucker View Post
    Hi Cousin Bob!

    Ok, you're right on the safety of smoke mode ;-) but I still think mcshlotz has a valid point. Anytime the machine is left unattended or un-monitored, the user should be able to count on it staying constant in the event of a network issue. We should be able to make our own mistakes on the temp settings, and a failed programming change due to disconnection at night should be on us and not on MAK. I, for one, would not plug in a 350-to-250 temp change in the middle of the night knowing that there could be a disconnect.

    Maybe a good compromise would be an override of the smoke-mode-on-lost-connection behavior. With a dialogue box that says "Are you sure you want to do this?" or somesuch...
    The point here is that a programed smoke (including temp changes) will always be at the mercy of continual connectivity. Logically the MAK will never bump down to 250 from 350 if the program is off line. Only way to solve that is have memory on the pellet boss that a program is downloaded to so it can do its thing even if connectivity is lost. Not a bad idea but not in the scope of the issue I brought up.

    First things first. I again am asking MAK to reevaluate the scenario of an overnight smoke that MANY USERS DO in regards to leaving the temp set to where it was when connectivity fails vs defaulting the unit back to the smoke setting. This include a method for all existing customers to update their MAK's.
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    Scooter's right on this. I'm currently taking applications from my kids to see which one qualifies for the final hand off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcschlotz View Post
    First things first. I again am asking MAK to reevaluate the scenario of an overnight smoke that MANY USERS DO in regards to leaving the temp set to where it was when connectivity fails vs defaulting the unit back to the smoke setting. This include a method for all existing customers to update their MAK's.
    As I stated to you before we do have this on the review list and have to consider all the grill owners scenarios not just the obvious ones. By switching to smoke your cook may take a little longer until you correct the issue but at least its not overcooked or sitting in a cold grill. This is not as you put it a "safety Card" as in we use that as an excuse to not make changes. It's a valid concern that we need to work through completely for all possible customer settings and experiences. We have thousands of grill owners and only a few have ever requested this feature change.

    Controller updates: MAK Grill owners can contact us to send them an update module or send their Pellet Boss to us and we will update here and return. We have been on V3.2 for a couple years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmonsmoker View Post
    Scooter's right on this. I'm currently taking applications from my kids to see which one qualifies for the final hand off.
    ROFL! I guess I gotta get started on the applications for my daughters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcschlotz View Post
    The point here is that a programed smoke (including temp changes) will always be at the mercy of continual connectivity. Logically the MAK will never bump down to 250 from 350 if the program is off line. Only way to solve that is have memory on the pellet boss that a program is downloaded to so it can do its thing even if connectivity is lost. Not a bad idea but not in the scope of the issue I brought up.

    First things first. I again am asking MAK to reevaluate the scenario of an overnight smoke that MANY USERS DO in regards to leaving the temp set to where it was when connectivity fails vs defaulting the unit back to the smoke setting. This include a method for all existing customers to update their MAK's.
    Quote Originally Posted by MAK DADDY View Post
    As I stated to you before we do have this on the review list and have to consider all the grill owners scenarios not just the obvious ones. By switching to smoke your cook may take a little longer until you correct the issue but at least its not overcooked or sitting in a cold grill. This is not as you put it a "safety Card" as in we use that as an excuse to not make changes. It's a valid concern that we need to work through completely for all possible customer settings and experiences. We have thousands of grill owners and only a few have ever requested this feature change.

    Controller updates: MAK Grill owners can contact us to send them an update module or send their Pellet Boss to us and we will update here and return. We have been on V3.2 for a couple years now.
    Since we originally discussed this back in August, hopefully some progress has been made in researching the many scenarios that MAK customers represent. I certainly agree that due diligence by MAK on this matter is necessary and would be disappointed to learn otherwise. It would be a welcome news to hear there is a resolution in the up coming few months.
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    OK Poppa here....First off lets respect Makintosh and not hijack his thread.

    Also lets make sure that we are in the spirit of this forum and snarky attitudes and innuendo dont rear their ugly heads. Mcschlotz I understand that you disagree with Bob. I also dont see a ton jumping in agreeing with you. You have the owner of the company here explaining his logic. I think Bob and MAK have done their due diligence...they just have a different point of view. In the end it's their call.

    At least it is continuing to cook...I dont use wifi and I would just lose my cook. (I also cook hot and fast...my briskets are 6 hours max.)

    Mutual respect is what has driven this forum. Respect for your opinion, Bob's opinion, all of the fine forumites participation.

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    Agreed, now back to smoking for tomorrow's party
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    Atta boy! No pics no party!

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