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    Temp Increase on 2019 PB

    I have a 2015 2 star and have absolutely loved it (aside from the meat probes). I reverse sear steaks a lot and I'd like to reduce the time it takes for my cook method. I prefer to cook at 225 till I get an IT of 110, then pull them off till the MAK reaches 450, then sear on grill grates for 6-10 minutes. But, going from 225-450 takes probably 20 minutes or more? I timed 20 minutes from 225 to 425 last weekend but I opened it twice briefly so I have to take that into consideration.

    I'm planning on upgrading the internals to the flame zone (FZ) and the new Pellet Boss (PB). I'm curious how quick I can get from down low to "grill temp" (450).

    Also curious how hot some of you have gotten your new thermocouple PB's up to? They regulate temp to not exceed 600 (compared to 500 previously), but how hot have you guys seen?

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    The controller has a minimum motor time adjustment for lowering set points to keep the fire going while this is happening. This is the reason it takes a while to cool down to the new set point, opening the lid will speed this up as you noted but there really isn't a lot we can do to make it faster while maintaining the fire in the pot.
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    I just received my 2 star last week. Since I had to season it at 450 for 30 minutes, I decided to try a little searing on some Ahi tuna.
    I removed only the front flame zone cover and adjusted the pellet boss to grill. With the thermocouple still located in the back left the pellet boss readout went to 605. It did go down to 590 as it was regulating the temp. Keep in mind that the temp was much hotter above the flame zone at the grate.
    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAK DADDY View Post
    The controller has a minimum motor time adjustment for lowering set points to keep the fire going while this is happening. This is the reason it takes a while to cool down to the new set point, opening the lid will speed this up as you noted but there really isn't a lot we can do to make it faster while maintaining the fire in the pot.
    We got our wires crossed here, I’m interested in going from 225 to 450+ quicker than I am now, which I’m hoping I’ll see a good increase with the Flame Zone upgrade.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeter View Post
    I just received my 2 star last week. Since I had to season it at 450 for 30 minutes, I decided to try a little searing on some Ahi tuna.
    I removed only the front flame zone cover and adjusted the pellet boss to grill. With the thermocouple still located in the back left the pellet boss readout went to 605. It did go down to 590 as it was regulating the temp. Keep in mind that the temp was much hotter above the flame zone at the grate.
    Hope this helps.
    Wow, that’s impressive. I’m sure it took time to get there but my goodness that’s hot! Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farfromovin View Post
    We got our wires crossed here, I’m interested in going from 225 to 450+ quicker than I am now, which I’m hoping I’ll see a good increase with the Flame Zone upgrade.
    I see, yes it will rise in temp much faster because the heat is being directed to the top cooking area much better than with the old system. You will be shocked at what a difference it makes not only faster to temp but as others pointed out hotter grilling.
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    My experience is you will see much higher actual temperatures at grate level when using the new FlameZone (covers removed for direct grilling) than what the PelletBoss is showing (because a lot more heat is going directly up top and to the grate with the new design).

    In warm weather, our 2017 1 star and the new 2 star both get up to grilling temp (from a cold start) within about 15 or so minutes (I haven't even taken the new 2 Star to the 600° setting yet). So this is just a guess, but with the new FlameZone, from 225ish° your wait time should easily be cut in half to around ten-ish minutes.


    By far the best pellets I have found for grilling are the Lumber Jack Char-Hickory, which has charcoal in the mix. Man do they burn hot (and a great flavor to boot)! After that, I get the best grilling performance from 100% oak pellets. The BBQer's Delight Jack Daniels pellets also have charcoal in them, so those might also be a good choice.


    Hope this helps!

    Cliff
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    MAK 1 Star General #651 - 2014 Model
    former owner - MAK 1 Star General #171
    22.5" Weber Performer with Stoven Pellet Grill attachment
    27 + year old 22.5" Weber Kettle (still works fine)
    Modified Horizontal Offset Smoker - used mainly for cold smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentHunter View Post
    My experience is you will see much higher actual temperatures at grate level when using the new FlameZone (covers removed for direct grilling) than what the PelletBoss is showing (because a lot more heat is going directly up top and to the grate with the new design).

    In warm weather, our 2017 1 star and the new 2 star both get up to grilling temp (from a cold start) within about 15 or so minutes (I haven't even taken the new 2 Star to the 600° setting yet). So this is just a guess, but with the new FlameZone, from 225ish° your wait time should easily be cut in half to around ten-ish minutes.


    By far the best pellets I have found for grilling are the Lumber Jack Char-Hickory, which has charcoal in the mix. Man do they burn hot (and a great flavor to boot)! After that, I get the best grilling performance from 100% oak pellets. The BBQer's Delight Jack Daniels pellets also have charcoal in them, so those might also be a good choice.


    Hope this helps!

    Cliff
    Thanks Cliff, that’s encouraging to hear. Oddly enough, in SoCal finding choice variety of pellets is difficult. But I do have about 18 20 lb bags on reserve of “Q Pellets” and BBQer Delight. I do have a bag of Jack Daniels so I’ll pull that out for a grill test and keep an eye out for Lumber Jack char-hickory.

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    Best pellets you can buy are BBQ Delight right here from BPS
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    New flame zone installed on the old crusty 2 star. I wish I had exact measurements for the old style but I don’t. New flame zone goes from off to 450 in 16 1/2 minutes. It’s about as much of an improvement as the new ceramic igniter made, aka a significant one. As always, impressed with the quality of the flame zone upgrade. Now just gotta wait a couple weeks for a new thermocouple style controller becomes available!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farfromovin View Post
    New flame zone installed on the old crusty 2 star. I wish I had exact measurements for the old style but I don’t. New flame zone goes from off to 450 in 16 1/2 minutes. It’s about as much of an improvement as the new ceramic igniter made, aka a significant one. As always, impressed with the quality of the flame zone upgrade. Now just gotta wait a couple weeks for a new thermocouple style controller becomes available!

    Now... keep in mind that when using the FlameZone in direct grilling mode (FZ covers removed) the actual grate temperature WILL BE HIGHER than what the PelletBoss is showing, because the thermocouple is off to the side. So when you see a PB temp showing 450°, expect actual grate temps to be around 550° or so.

    Also in direct grilling mode when you open the lid (which you will do a lot more often than when smoking/BBQing) the PelletBoss will show a huge temperature drop. DO NOT BE ALARMED! The actual grate temp remains very stable! It's just showing the chamber air being evacuated.

    Be watching for a post from me showing our grilling experience, from this past Friday evening, with the new 2 Star!
    <><
    MAK 1 Star General #651 - 2014 Model
    former owner - MAK 1 Star General #171
    22.5" Weber Performer with Stoven Pellet Grill attachment
    27 + year old 22.5" Weber Kettle (still works fine)
    Modified Horizontal Offset Smoker - used mainly for cold smoking.

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