Which Pellet Grill to Buy ? HELP!

thethrill

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I know I know! Not another thread on this subject! But really, I have read and read and have taken some time to do a write up on what I am really looking for rather than just asking the same old ambiguous question. If you would take the time to read this and post some helpful information, I would greatly appreciate it!

I have been looking at purchasing a pellet grill for some time now. I am looking for suggestions on what pit to go with and why. I realize that is a pretty broad spectrum, so I have taken the time to give you some insight to how I see things and what I am looking for.

Let’s start by letting you know what I appreciate in what I have seen thus far.
Memphis Pro & Elite Models: American Made! The Elite is just a beautiful pit. Everything about it screams quality! I mostly love the high grade stainless and the fact that it’s an insulated pit. Although I am in the Midwest and do not see extremely cold temperatures, I do like benefits that an insulated pit provides. The bad thing is, I could never convince myself or my wife to spend $4,000+ on a grill! I would use it a couple times a week all year long, but Need something under $2,000 for sure.
The first grill I looked at was the Traeger Select, and then the Green Mountain Jim Bowie, then the Yoder YS640, then finally the Memphis line of grills and in that exact order. Honestly each time I started looking at a new brand I felt like it offered better quality than the last. Although value and functionality I am unsure of.
I briefly seen a Rec Tec and a Louisiana, didn’t price them or even explore their different models, but decided at this point I was just getting overwhelmed with so many options. Having No prior experience with a pellet grill, I am looking for some suggestions. I realize that most people think what they have is best and that is fine, just please tell me why. Here is some of what I am looking for in this pit, feel free to offer other suggestions.

1) Functionality: It needs to do its job, and do it well. I want flavorful food! I have read that many people have had problems on what pellets their grill likes and that some grills are picky on what pellets you use. That is not good for me as I live in a pretty remote area. Also that some grills accept a smoke tube better than others. The smoke tube thing is not a big deal, but still plays to the fact I do not want a finicky grill.

2) Quality of Materials: How is this thing gonna hold up? I mean I can go to the "big box store" and buy a $250 stainless gas grill that looks good on the outside after 10 years but the insides have rusted to pieces and fallen apart. If I am going to fork out this much money I want quality materials and a good warranty! Before I discovered pellet style grills, I was sold on Holland as I personally know people who have used them for years and years and they’ve weathered the storm and offer a good warranty, (lifetime even on some parts).

3) Cost: I need this to be under $2,000. $2k, period, with bells whistles extra racks, kits whatever, my budget is firm.

4) Versatility: I like the grills that offer the lower smoking temps but also will heat to 600+ as we eat a lot of Steak!

5) Customer Service: This stuff is man-made and designed by man. Man is not perfect and I do not expect anything we make to be either. However, the degree in which a man stands behind his product is what ultimately shows his commitment to his customers in my book. I will not deal with a company that has a history of giving people the runaround and hasn’t invested in good customer service practices.

There may be more, but that’s all I can think of at this point. So please, suggest away!
 

82corvette

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Check out Blaz'n Grill Works. 100% Made In USA in Beatrice Nebraska. Built like a tank, Pid Controller, Cool feature of removable burn pot from the outside for easy cleanup. I have had my Grid Iron about 6 months now with no problems.
 
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TentHunter

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PLEASE do NOT let this be construed as us just pushing MAK's. It's not about that. What you're seeing is happy MAK owners expressing their opinions. We have some happy Yoder owners too, and at least one happy Blaz'n owner. Keep the positive info coming, but be sensitive to the rules and remember our forum sponser; don't post links, phone numbers, etc. for where to buy them.


At the risk of seeming like another MAK pusher, here's my opinion:

The MAK 1 Star will meet all the criteria you mentioned: Under $2K, flavorful food, longevity, good customer service. But the one criteria you mentioned that caught my attention was versatility.

With these add-ons you will also have a lot of versatility from the get go and still be under the budget you set:

► MAK Griddle - That griddle adds a ton of versatility.
► Split Grate (you need this to sit next to the griddle)
► At least one upper half rack.

Later, as budget allows, you can add the FlameZone & a searing grate for even more versatility.
 

sorge57

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I love my Mak, but what I will add to the conversation is, You have a pretty good idea what you want, start watching videos of the cookers in action. I came to my conclusion to buy my mak by reading this forum and then taking the suggestions to youtube.......the mak videos showed me all the features I was missing out on with the pellet grill I had before the mak.
 

Darwin00537

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In the past month I bought a Hasty Bake Gourmet and a Mak 2 Star so I'm pretty up to date on what the market has to offer and have looked at the grills you've mentioned. There is NO grill that is the best at smoking and the best at searing. If you want to stay under 2 grand and have great searing and smoking results I recommend you go for two grills. One of those should be a Mak 1 Star. The other should be whatever is left of your 2 Grand budget that is great at searing=).

You can't go wrong with a Weber Performer (heck you may already have one). A lot of folks have these but don't know how to use them to the greatest effect. Check this out: How To Set Up A Charcoal Grill For Smoking Or Grilling
 

Yambor44

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I have owned a Traeger Texas 075, A Traeger Lil Tex, and a Memphis Advantage.

I currently own a Rec Tec, PG500, and a Mak 2 star and just ordered a Madera. Of the 3 pellet grills I currently own, with your style of cooking, I would go with the PG500. If you need anymore info, shoot me a PM.
 

Darwin00537

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The PG500 to me reads like the frankenstein of cookers, trying to be everything. I think it fails at searing. It has a tiny sear area with an iron grate for searing, and the heat falls off rapidly from center if you're not over the burn pot. I'm sure it's great for smoking, but I wouldn't buy it thinking it's going to sear great steaks. I will admit I do not like iron grates, so iron grate fans might feel differently. I'd rather sear with radiant heat. That's why I like charcoal for searing.

I like the Maks because of the wifi control. I'd be willing to bet that most quality smokers with digital controllers and quality engineering do a great job at smoking (Memphis, Fast Eddy, Rec Tec, Mak, Yoder, GMGs, etc...) but only Mak lets you check the temp of your meat from your iphone while you're out shopping at the butcher for the next cook=)

I don't know how many times I've gotten the stink eye from the Missus because I cut a Saturday trip short so we could go home and check the progress of the cooker. Now that I have a Mak with Wifi I no longer have to worry about it.
 

jwv651

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I am new guy here...After 6 months of reading the 2 pellet forums I bought a Blaz'n Grill Works GridIron Pro and it was a good choice for me. here is a pic. It's a beast!

 

jwv651

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Love your Grid Iron, wish I would have ponied up for the comp wheel kit.
The only reason I got them is if I decide to do a comp they would make life easier moving this tank. Standard wheels are fine if you don't plan on moving over rough area's. BTW I had a 72 and 74 vette then I got married in 1983, had 3 kids and bye bye went the vettes. :(
 

Darwin00537

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The Blaz'n grill looks like a decent smoker, and it's great that it's made in the USA. I checked out the website though and it leaves a lot to be desired. Prices aren't listed and you can't actually buy a grill on the site... so I watched two of the videos and noticed they have a sear kit... but the video didn't demonstrate how it worked. So I found an owner on youtube that demonstrated it. Based on the video the sear kit does very little in the way of letting flames hit the meat. It basically just focuses the convective heat towards the back and allows you to see a little flame.

I'd also add the controller doesn't match up to the Mak's pellet boss. No wifi option, only one probe, and likely other things don't measure up. I'm sure the Blaz'n grills are nice, but I just don't see them matching up to a Mak.

IF these grills cost less than a Mak 1 star then maybe they beat the Mak on value, but I can't tell that because the website didn't list MSRP.
 

jwv651

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Hi Darwin I agree 100% the web site is horrible. The pit is double walled and has a insulated lid, controller is the same as the Memphis, meat probe etc. Heavy and I mean heavy steel 200 lbs. comes with upper shelf and outside shelf, clean out pot, 1012 sq. in cooking space. The GridIron pro goes for under $1400 plus shipping, I think it's price very well. BTW I don't cook steaks on the GridIron, I prefer searing my steaks with lump charcoal at 750 degrees on my pid LG big green egg. No one pit does it all for eveyone. The Mak is a fine pit and I wouldn't mind owning one, But the Gridiron works perfect for what I want it to do.
 
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TentHunter

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...controller is the same as the Memphis,...

Here are some facts on both grills:

Controllers:

Blaz'n - My understanding (based on someone I know who owns one) is the Ortech controller is standard and goes to 450°. The newer "Pro" controller (by Memphis) is an upgrade option AND also requires an auger upgrade to achieve temps above 450°. I believe these options are built into the newer "pro" series, but their website is NOT clear.

MAK - All MAK grills include the Pellet Boss, designed by and for MAK Grills.


Shipping:

Blaz'n Grill Works is said to be reasonable (around $100 or so).

Standard shipping is included with the MAK.

This makes the base price of both the MAK 1 Star & the Grid Iron Pro series around $1500


Metal comparison:

Blaz'n - is using 409 series Stainless for parts & 16 gauge steel for the cooking chamber.

MAK - is using a higher quality 304 series stainless steel for parts and the cooking chamber uses 14 gauge Aluminized steel with a 1200° powder coat which virtually eliminates rust.

See this thread: 16ga. 304 & Aluminized steel


Cooking area:

The Grid Iron - Bottom grate = 710 sq. in. Top cooking shelf = 310 sq. in. (limited height space) Total = 1020 sq. in.

MAK 1 Star - Bottom grate = 360 sq. in. + Upper rack = 360 sq. in. Total = 760 sq. in.

Pro's & Con's - The Grid iron has 260 sq. in of additional cooking surface, however the upper shelf has limited head room making it more suitable for thinner items. The MAK 1 Star has less total cooking surface, but has more head room and will take larger items on the upper rack.

More cooking space is definite plus when entertaining, but also takes longer & uses more pellets to heat up. You have to weigh which of these factors is more important.




Ultimately you have to decide based on the info and go with what's best for you!

Cliff
 
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Big Poppa

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Sometimes the things that make you rich make you poor. There are threads that I know are going to get messy..."what pit should I buy" MAK vs Yoder" "GMG vs Traeger". I do not want to discourage anyone from asking these questions...I want all questions asked and hopefully thoughtfully answered.

\Are there a lot of MAK zealots here? Absolutely. Why? Because they are really happy. That is not to say that others Like Mossy and tatonka for example arent tickled pink with their Yoder.

In the end we are cooking food for ourselves friends family and loved ones...as long as you are cooking outside you are good with me.

I would ask that people consider that there is a reason why the MAK owners are happy and on the other side I would ask the MAK owners to be respectful of other choices.
 

Darwin00537

New member
BTW I don't cook steaks on the GridIron, I prefer searing my steaks with lump charcoal at 750 degrees on my pid LG big green egg. No one pit does it all for eveyone.

This is why I recommended the OP Buy a Mak AND a Weber Kettle in my first post in this thread=)

I'm not disrespecting your pit. It does look like Blaz'n put some thought and time into it. I just think the Mak stacks up better due to the Pellet Boss and Wifi. Now if we're talking aesthetics, the Mak 1 isn't the prettiest grill you can buy in my eyes, but it's got the most functionality.

I would also have concerns with the Blaz'n business case. I'd never heard of them before this thread and I've done a lot of research. This could be because they're based out of Nebraska and are more of a regional pit, I'm not sure. Based on the state of their website (Front page still advertises for Christmas and you can't even buy online) I'd guess they're working on a shoestring budget and may not even be profitable. I think the OP should stick with well known brands that have a higher likelihood of being in business 5 years from now... Mak, Memphis, Yoder, Fast Eddy. Of all the new Pits on the market I think the Rec Tec is awesome. If the OP wants to save money Rec Tec could be the way to go... But I'd only suggest this if the OP can't reach the $1500 for the Mak 1.
 

82corvette

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Blaz'n will seer a steak flames do come up when using the seer kit & it will do 525 degrees at the grate read with my laser. As far as the business goes Setzer Manufacturing has been around for at least 35 years that I know of. The owner has built custom pits for years & sold Traegers for years when they decided to build a better grill. They have about 25 people working full time in fabrication and powder coating. They were building Heatsource 1 boilers till our government decided they were causing pollution. The controller is Rec Tec & does have the capability of wifi however they have not offered an app yet. The website sucks but Tim told me they simply do not have the time to commit to that. They do have a toll free number & will take care of you.
 

Big Poppa

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Ok I really would like people to only speak of what they know...we have no idea of any of the companies financial strength or anything...can we keep the comments to pit related comments based on actual personal experience? thanks!
 
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